>=( 5 pages?... what stucked was that i read the first page... and since i was already in so deep i had to read the rest... anyways.. I think that Children praised for their intelligence gain a mild case of Vanity/Big-headedness/cockiness which is why when they have to try, in their heads they go..." wait... If im so smart... why is this taking forever?... this is obviously some.. Mega advanced super computer uber genius hieroglyphics ... IM OUT!!"
Really interesting in how the researchers can delve into the minds of young kids. Usually, you feel as though it's natural to praise someone, regardless of their actual intellect. However, instead of a reinforcement with a positive backing, it causes kids who are praised for intelligence to feel a need to be perfect at everything. Thusly, it can be said that the reason they back off of challenges, should they not be amazingly talented at them the first go around, is because they do not want to lose the "title" of being intelligent. Truly interesting as how such a trivial thing as calling somebody intelligent can cause the child to feel a need to permanently keep that title. Additionally, I found it interesting in how kids who were told they "worked hard" knew that they must have done satisfactory, yet there was room for improvement. Therefore my thought is that constantly praising somebody for intelligence leads them to believe there is nowhere to go but DOWN, whereas telling somebody they "worked hard" introduces a great work ethic, because they know they can be BETTER/ have room to go UPWARD.
Woaah That was long. Haha but I find that the article makes alot of sense. Praising children for their efforts shows them that hard work pays off in the end. However, when children are praised for their "brains", I feel like that shows them that getting the right answers better than working through problems to achieve a possible answer. This build up of over confidence actually chips away their confidence to perservere. Furthermore, I do believe that praise, when well-earned, should surely be given but, over use or inappropriate use can lead to pretty drastic results.
I agree with this after thinking hard enough. My head hurt a little from reading too fast, but I understand.
Honestly, I'm not apart of the "smart kids" [I'm not saying I'm stupid, I'm just saying I'm not all that]. -- And whenever my teachers say I need to put in more effort, it gets me kinda angry, but angry to the point where I actually begin to suck it up and try harder.
And most of the times it works. I think when parents tell their child they're "smart", that child most definitely becomes a "perfectionist" . It's this psychological thing about people. Once they're praised, they don't want to be criticized again.
I think it's cool that they recognize this indirect message from kids. I would have never thought this until after reading this article.
I love reading but DANNGGG...that was just too long....and boring :< (I kind of skimmed through it.)
I think that young kids should only focus on effort all the time. Children want almost more than anything to feel satisfactory.A kid should be praised for what they have done, not what they are( i mean when someone tells them they're very smart and all that). I'd rather be praised for my effort and told about my mistakes so I can fix them, than be praised for my intelligence. Every time I'm exalted for my intelligence, I would feel pressured and not want to make a single mistake, and when I do make one, I feel worst than how I'd feel if I was told about my mistakes so I can correct them. Praising someone for being smart might cause them to think that they have to do everything perfectly, whereas they can just focus on effort. I also think that no matter how smart one is, there's always someone above(smarter) or below them(not as smart). Everyone is smart in different ways and good at different things. Parents shouldn't sugarcoat over their kid's failures, they should let their kid know that it's okay for them to make mistakes sometimes.
When Kids are praised for being "smart" as opposed to being hard/effective workers, it gives them a sense of responsibility in the word. Like they must live up to it, or they will let someone down.I think praising a child's effort is more important, and helps them more than just simply calling them smart. If someone is repeatedly told something they will start to believe it. So if kids believe they are smart, they take on that role, just as the kid did in the article, he did what he could, and what he couldn't he didn't try. Praising effort is more rewarding, because it makes them want to succeed even more, and feel satisfaction when they've done something well. Especially in the mind of a child, "smart" can be interpreted as something which gives you a free pass to slacking. I think cildren should be praised for their effort, because being called "smart" only drives out conceit.
I completely agree with the article. Honestly it makes so much sense. Teens especially are constantly wanting to appear as the most intelligent person in the class. But, this can lead them to having a perfectionist attitude. That kind of attitude is what prevents people from making mistakes, which is the best way to learn the "correct answer". Which is why parents should not tell their children that they are intelligent; rather, tell them that they are working hard. This allows for the student themself to decide where they are in their learning and it will allow them to have an open mind for unfamiliar tasks that do not come as naturally to them. Telling a teen that they are intelligent makes them think that if something does not come as easily to them, that it is not worth trying because they fear ridicule from their failures. If everyone had this attitude, then there would be no progress in the world. Instead, if a parent tells their child that they are working hard, this makes the student want to keep learning because they see that they can push through obstatcles that at first may seem daunting but they soon come to realize that through hard work, they can acheive greatness.
Well, I thought that since the beginning, this child as flooded with praise and attention of his intellectuality, but I felt as if they did that too much he would stop doing academic things not because he wants to prevent himself from finding something he can't do, but he probably thinks he is too superior to do it and he might think "oh if I actually try I will conquer it but I already know i'm a genius." So the constant praise can pitch in to the lack of enthusiasm. Also, there is a possibility that when he tried new things and didn't understand, then he may have felt that he wouldn't be smart anymore and that it would jeopardize his reputation therefore, he wanted to stick with what he was confident in. Either way it is a must to always push your child to go beyond and try new things and always give 100% but not just fill their heads with arrrogance.
I agree. People don’t want to risk being called “dumb” or “stupid” so they rather show people what they’re good at instead of trying something that they won’t understand and will risk their reputation as being smart. But is being called “smart” a good measure of doing well? Its ironic that being called smart makes kids do worse than if they’re being praised for effort. But I get it, really interesting stuff. This shows the way people think, and how they won’t put in effort because they’re already considered “smart.” This makes them somewhat arrogant. Kids cheat more because they want to live up to standards of being smart. This study showed that its important to be specific in praise rather then being broad. This specific praise will also help students know what they need to concentrate on and will give them more motivation to learn then slack off. It also shows the importance of putting effort into things.
This took me like half an hour to read, but yeah interesting article i really agree with what it was talking about. I'm not saying that smart kids annoy me, but there are some that think just because they know more than average, they believe that they're right about everything that come out they mouth. And it definitely has to do with how they were brought up and the manner in which they were praised. If you just tell them oh yeah you smart and yadda yadda without making it clear that they can always improve, they're probably going to do things without putting in a lot of effort, because they think that what they did was perfect and stuff. For real though, if parents and other adults keep telling smart kids that they're smart, they're going to want to keep that status and not want to try things that they might fail because they might look dumb. I'm taking child development and whatever, and i learned that kids at a young age are always trying to please everybody. So if they be telling them they're all that and smart, it's just going to add a lot of pressure to them, and they're just going to be really self-conscious about doing things right all the time. So yeah like what other people said, they shouldn't be praised for their smarts, they should be praised for their effort, because if they praised for their effort its going to make them want to put in more effort next time and get things right. Most of the time people didn't tell me i was smart unless they were just trying to be nice, lol but it's all good because i'd rather do something, get it wrong, and learn it right eventually than to try so hard to get it right the first time, get it wrong, and be guhh and quit.
That was a long article but mmh interesting to read. When kids are praised for being the smart one they question themselves I'm I really smart? Just as if you keep on saying you are not capable of doing something over and over again that will affect a person. They will think I'm not capable and they'll give up. When people praises a kid about being "smart" it may make them think they are smart that they don't really have to try and can lead to failure. Smart everyone can be as smart as the others but the important part is if they put the effort into becoming that person. With effort they will continue to try harder they'll also see results.
Super long.. but anyways i think this was a pretty interesting article about kids who are super smart.. which i wish i was but sadly not. i agree with how you should limit how you compliment your kids because you dont want them to become arrogant/cocky when it comes to smarts or sports. I myself like to be complimented but only when i know i actually earned it. Many people give up when they dont get something but usually after trying alot of times unlike the child in this article where it says he gave up immediately simply because he wasnt "good" at it. to me i think everyone is smart it just dependns on how much effort you're willing to put into it.
They are all perfect squares. 1+3 is 4. 1+3+5 is 9. 1+3+5+7 is 16. Even if you continue the pattern like 1+3+5+7+9= 25. Also if you add an even number of odd numbers you will get an answer that is even for an example: 1+3=4 (even answer), 3+5+11+9=28 (even answer). However if you add an odd number of odd numbers you will get an odd answer. an example: 3+1+5=9 (odd number), 3+11+23+9+7+5+13=71 (an odd answer). For the bottom half if you subtract any two consecutive odd numbers your answer will always be 2.
Wow that was a cool article. I am always interested about public surveys like that. What I got from the article is that it is better to praise kids for their effort rather than for their intelligence. If you praise kids on their effort, then in the back of their heads they think that they aren't naturally smart but they do have the willpower and determination. This new sense of accomplishment will allow them to strive to solve difficult problems and challenge themselves even at the risk of failure, just like the test with the two choices. On the other hand, if kids are praised for their intelligence their whole lives, then they start to build a reputation in their minds and among their peers that they are naturally smart. Those kids feel that they have a reputation to uphold and eventually will choose the easy way out to ensure that they succeed, rather than challenge themselves at the risk of failure.
Basically, praise for effort equls determination, which leads to a higher tollerance for non-success and a stronger will to improve. Praise for intelligence leads to self-consciousness and lack of ways to cope with failure, that leads to non-challenging problems to ensure not embarassing themselves infront of peers.
My parents always praised me for being smart and getting good grades rather than working hard and always bragging to their co-workers how smart I am and what not. It seemed as though they didn't care much about anything other than my grades. I didn't want to try anything new because if i didn't ace it, even if i tried my hardest, they wouldn't appreciate it and they would say stuff like "Why are you screwing up?" and "You used to be smart". Eventually, I stopped trying if I didn't understand the work.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, parents really should praise work and effort rather than constantly telling their kid their smart ALL the time, giving their kid a sense that they can't and shouldn't fail anything and that effort doesn't matter. It may seem like a good thing and that your kid will try to keep that title, but it will NOT benefit them at all.
Definitely a great article! People have a problem with it, because people have a superiority complex in general. If it all boils down to hard work and brain exercise, than neither of us is really any better than the other one. And no one wants to hear that.
I think what they were saying is soooo true! My mom has been preachin' this at me for years, shes a school teacher. The kids who we dub "really smart" or "gifted" think since they're so smart that everything just comes easily, but when they finally get to something that they don't understand, they fall apart. They've never had to struggle through a problem, or learn the coping skills that would have helped them. Plus they think they're so smart (only because every one has told them so, and they do well in school) that they get easily frustrated as soon as they don;t understand and shut down.
>=( 5 pages?... what stucked was that i read the first page... and since i was already in so deep i had to read the rest... anyways.. I think that Children praised for their intelligence gain a mild case of Vanity/Big-headedness/cockiness which is why when they have to try, in their heads they go..." wait... If im so smart... why is this taking forever?... this is obviously some.. Mega advanced super computer uber genius hieroglyphics ... IM OUT!!"
ReplyDeleteI was with you until the last sentence... :)
ReplyDeleteReally interesting in how the researchers can delve into the minds of young kids. Usually, you feel as though it's natural to praise someone, regardless of their actual intellect. However, instead of a reinforcement with a positive backing, it causes kids who are praised for intelligence to feel a need to be perfect at everything. Thusly, it can be said that the reason they back off of challenges, should they not be amazingly talented at them the first go around, is because they do not want to lose the "title" of being intelligent.
ReplyDeleteTruly interesting as how such a trivial thing as calling somebody intelligent can cause the child to feel a need to permanently keep that title.
Additionally, I found it interesting in how kids who were told they "worked hard" knew that they must have done satisfactory, yet there was room for improvement. Therefore my thought is that constantly praising somebody for intelligence leads them to believe there is nowhere to go but DOWN, whereas telling somebody they "worked hard" introduces a great work ethic, because they know they can be BETTER/ have room to go UPWARD.
Woaah That was long. Haha but I find that the article makes alot of sense. Praising children for their efforts shows them that hard work pays off in the end. However, when children are praised for their "brains", I feel like that shows them that getting the right answers better than working through problems to achieve a possible answer. This build up of over confidence actually chips away their confidence to perservere.
ReplyDeleteFurthermore, I do believe that praise, when well-earned, should surely be given but, over use or inappropriate use can lead to pretty drastic results.
I agree with this after thinking hard enough. My head hurt a little from reading too fast, but I understand.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I'm not apart of the "smart kids" [I'm not saying I'm stupid, I'm just saying I'm not all that]. -- And whenever my teachers say I need to put in more effort, it gets me kinda angry, but angry to the point where I actually begin to suck it up and try harder.
And most of the times it works.
I think when parents tell their child they're "smart", that child most definitely becomes a "perfectionist" . It's this psychological thing about people. Once they're praised, they don't want to be criticized again.
I think it's cool that they recognize this indirect message from kids. I would have never thought this until after reading this article.
I love reading but DANNGGG...that was just too long....and boring :< (I kind of skimmed through it.)
ReplyDeleteI think that young kids should only focus on effort all the time. Children want almost more than anything to feel satisfactory.A kid should be praised for what they have done, not what they are( i mean when someone tells them they're very smart and all that). I'd rather be praised for my effort and told about my mistakes so I can fix them, than be praised for my intelligence.
Every time I'm exalted for my intelligence, I would feel pressured and not want to make a single mistake, and when I do make one, I feel worst than how I'd feel if I was told about my mistakes so I can correct them. Praising someone for being smart might cause them to think that they have to do everything perfectly, whereas they can just focus on effort.
I also think that no matter how smart one is, there's always someone above(smarter) or below them(not as smart). Everyone is smart in different ways and good at different things. Parents shouldn't sugarcoat over their kid's failures, they should let their kid know that it's okay for them to make mistakes sometimes.
When Kids are praised for being "smart" as opposed to being hard/effective workers, it gives them a sense of responsibility in the word. Like they must live up to it, or they will let someone down.I think praising a child's effort is more important, and helps them more than just simply calling them smart. If someone is repeatedly told something they will start to believe it. So if kids believe they are smart, they take on that role, just as the kid did in the article, he did what he could, and what he couldn't he didn't try. Praising effort is more rewarding, because it makes them want to succeed even more, and feel satisfaction when they've done something well. Especially in the mind of a child, "smart" can be interpreted as something which gives you a free pass to slacking. I think cildren should be praised for their effort, because being called "smart" only drives out conceit.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with the article. Honestly it makes so much sense. Teens especially are constantly wanting to appear as the most intelligent person in the class. But, this can lead them to having a perfectionist attitude. That kind of attitude is what prevents people from making mistakes, which is the best way to learn the "correct answer". Which is why parents should not tell their children that they are intelligent; rather, tell them that they are working hard. This allows for the student themself to decide where they are in their learning and it will allow them to have an open mind for unfamiliar tasks that do not come as naturally to them. Telling a teen that they are intelligent makes them think that if something does not come as easily to them, that it is not worth trying because they fear ridicule from their failures. If everyone had this attitude, then there would be no progress in the world. Instead, if a parent tells their child that they are working hard, this makes the student want to keep learning because they see that they can push through obstatcles that at first may seem daunting but they soon come to realize that through hard work, they can acheive greatness.
ReplyDeleteThanks. (Period 7- Maria Hawkins)
Well, I thought that since the beginning, this child as flooded with praise and attention of his intellectuality, but I felt as if they did that too much he would stop doing academic things not because he wants to prevent himself from finding something he can't do, but he probably thinks he is too superior to do it and he might think "oh if I actually try I will conquer it but I already know i'm a genius." So the constant praise can pitch in to the lack of enthusiasm. Also, there is a possibility that when he tried new things and didn't understand, then he may have felt that he wouldn't be smart anymore and that it would jeopardize his reputation therefore, he wanted to stick with what he was confident in. Either way it is a must to always push your child to go beyond and try new things and always give 100% but not just fill their heads with arrrogance.
ReplyDeleteI agree. People don’t want to risk being called “dumb” or “stupid” so they rather show people what they’re good at instead of trying something that they won’t understand and will risk their reputation as being smart. But is being called “smart” a good measure of doing well? Its ironic that being called smart makes kids do worse than if they’re being praised for effort. But I get it, really interesting stuff. This shows the way people think, and how they won’t put in effort because they’re already considered “smart.” This makes them somewhat arrogant. Kids cheat more because they want to live up to standards of being smart. This study showed that its important to be specific in praise rather then being broad. This specific praise will also help students know what they need to concentrate on and will give them more motivation to learn then slack off. It also shows the importance of putting effort into things.
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This took me like half an hour to read, but yeah interesting article i really agree with what it was talking about. I'm not saying that smart kids annoy me, but there are some that think just because they know more than average, they believe that they're right about everything that come out they mouth. And it definitely has to do with how they were brought up and the manner in which they were praised. If you just tell them oh yeah you smart and yadda yadda without making it clear that they can always improve, they're probably going to do things without putting in a lot of effort, because they think that what they did was perfect and stuff. For real though, if parents and other adults keep telling smart kids that they're smart, they're going to want to keep that status and not want to try things that they might fail because they might look dumb. I'm taking child development and whatever, and i learned that kids at a young age are always trying to please everybody. So if they be telling them they're all that and smart, it's just going to add a lot of pressure to them, and they're just going to be really self-conscious about doing things right all the time. So yeah like what other people said, they shouldn't be praised for their smarts, they should be praised for their effort, because if they praised for their effort its going to make them want to put in more effort next time and get things right. Most of the time people didn't tell me i was smart unless they were just trying to be nice, lol but it's all good because i'd rather do something, get it wrong, and learn it right eventually than to try so hard to get it right the first time, get it wrong, and be guhh and quit.
ReplyDeleteThat was a long article but mmh interesting to read. When kids are praised for being the smart one they question themselves I'm I really smart? Just as if you keep on saying you are not capable of doing something over and over again that will affect a person. They will think I'm not capable and they'll give up. When people praises a kid about being "smart" it may make them think they are smart that they don't really have to try and can lead to failure. Smart everyone can be as smart as the others but the important part is if they put the effort into becoming that person. With effort they will continue to try harder they'll also see results.
ReplyDeleteSuper long.. but anyways i think this was a pretty interesting article about kids who are super smart.. which i wish i was but sadly not. i agree with how you should limit how you compliment your kids because you dont want them to become arrogant/cocky when it comes to smarts or sports. I myself like to be complimented but only when i know i actually earned it. Many people give up when they dont get something but usually after trying alot of times unlike the child in this article where it says he gave up immediately simply because he wasnt "good" at it. to me i think everyone is smart it just dependns on how much effort you're willing to put into it.
ReplyDeleteThey are all perfect squares. 1+3 is 4. 1+3+5 is 9. 1+3+5+7 is 16. Even if you continue the pattern like 1+3+5+7+9= 25. Also if you add an even number of odd numbers you will get an answer that is even for an example: 1+3=4 (even answer), 3+5+11+9=28 (even answer). However if you add an odd number of odd numbers you will get an odd answer. an example: 3+1+5=9 (odd number), 3+11+23+9+7+5+13=71 (an odd answer). For the bottom half if you subtract any two consecutive odd numbers your answer will always be 2.
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Wow that was a cool article. I am always interested about public surveys like that. What I got from the article is that it is better to praise kids for their effort rather than for their intelligence. If you praise kids on their effort, then in the back of their heads they think that they aren't naturally smart but they do have the willpower and determination. This new sense of accomplishment will allow them to strive to solve difficult problems and challenge themselves even at the risk of failure, just like the test with the two choices. On the other hand, if kids are praised for their intelligence their whole lives, then they start to build a reputation in their minds and among their peers that they are naturally smart. Those kids feel that they have a reputation to uphold and eventually will choose the easy way out to ensure that they succeed, rather than challenge themselves at the risk of failure.
ReplyDeleteBasically, praise for effort equls determination, which leads to a higher tollerance for non-success and a stronger will to improve. Praise for intelligence leads to self-consciousness and lack of ways to cope with failure, that leads to non-challenging problems to ensure not embarassing themselves infront of peers.
Dan Pham
I can relate to this.
ReplyDeleteMy parents always praised me for being smart and getting good grades rather than working hard and always bragging to their co-workers how smart I am and what not. It seemed as though they didn't care much about anything other than my grades. I didn't want to try anything new because if i didn't ace it, even if i tried my hardest, they wouldn't appreciate it and they would say stuff like "Why are you screwing up?" and "You used to be smart". Eventually, I stopped trying if I didn't understand the work.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, parents really should praise work and effort rather than constantly telling their kid their smart ALL the time, giving their kid a sense that they can't and shouldn't fail anything and that effort doesn't matter. It may seem like a good thing and that your kid will try to keep that title, but it will NOT benefit them at all.
Definitely a great article! People have a problem with it, because people have a superiority complex in general. If it all boils down to hard work and brain exercise, than neither of us is really any better than the other one. And no one wants to hear that.
ReplyDeleteI think what they were saying is soooo true! My mom has been preachin' this at me for years, shes a school teacher. The kids who we dub "really smart" or "gifted" think since they're so smart that everything just comes easily, but when they finally get to something that they don't understand, they fall apart. They've never had to struggle through a problem, or learn the coping skills that would have helped them. Plus they think they're so smart (only because every one has told them so, and they do well in school) that they get easily frustrated as soon as they don;t understand and shut down.
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