I agree with David, because when you divide any number by 0 you will get 0 as the answer, there really isn't any other explanation to that because 0 has no value.
I agree with david and yajaira, because wholetime a number divided by nothing would end up having no meaning. Just like how you can't multiply any number by zero without getting any number besides zero.
if you have 10 skittkes you can divide that by 2 and have two equal piles of 5 skittles. but if you have zero skittles you cant devide them into any group because there is nothing there to begin with and you probably arleady ate them all lol
Not a bad start, but none of these are sufficient arguments. You all start with decent arguments and then trail off. Go back to Landon's first sentence and start from there. 10/2 = 5. So division by 2 works. What would 10/0 = ? and why does that not work.
Remember 10/0 DOES NOT = 0, it is undefined. Two different things. Let's think more mathematically here.
well this is from yahoo answers, so I'm not sure how reliable all the information is but basically I think the bottom of the answer sums up Mr. Frank's question.... it's still a bit confusing but it sort of makes sense if you re-read it a couple times
Zero is undefinable when it comes to dividing because you can't group numbers with zero. For example, if i had a set of 10 cans and 5 groups. 2 cans in group 1 and 2. 3 cans in group 3 and 4 but group 5 had no cans, then it wouldnt make sense because you cant group anything with nothing so it might as well not be a group. that be all.
When you do , for example, 8 divided by 0, you need to multiply the 0 with the 8 to get the 8 back. However, anything that multiplies with 0 is just 0.
0 is undefined because no other factor/number can be divided without the answer being impossible to answer or ending up to be 0 once again.
Well you can't divide by zero because, using skittles, you have ten, and divide themm by zero, you wouldn't be dividing them or anything at all since 0 isn't a number you can divide by so overall you would just have 10 skittles.
But that different cuz, if 1 person wanted the skittles, all 10 skittles would go to that one person isn't of nothing happening to them,
I agree with Yajaira, Joey and David because any number that you divide or multiply by zero is just gonna give you zero so therefore zero is undefined.
I agree with Elmer. 16/4 is four, because you can put four of those 4's in to get back to 16. However, with zero, no matter what you multiply zero by, you will never get any number other than zero. So if you think of it in terms of multiplication, it makes sense. 15/3=3, because 3* The Answer (5) gets you back to 15. 16/0 doesn't equal 0, simply because 0* The answer, (0) does not get back to 16. Hope that makes sense, and correct me if I am wrong.
If you divide 6 by 3 you get 2, so to reverse your steps, 2 times 3 must equal 6.Now say you divide that 6 by 0 then no matter what answer you get, to reverse your steps you have to multiply that number by 0 and get the 6 back. But, no matter what number you try, you multiply the 0 and get 0 and can never get the 6 back. This is to say no number exists for 6 divided by 0 (or any number you choose to begin with though 0 is a bit trickier to explain) since no number times 0 equals 6.
So basically what Maria had linked to was saying that anything divided with 0 as a numerator , 0/X, will get you 0. While anything with 0 as a denominator will equal or give you an answer of an undefined number. So for instance an equation like X/0= undefined. The number undefined has no verifiable value because it is undefined. It could be anything. So if you flip the equation to equal for X it would be (undefined • 0) = X. However that makes no sense because if it has no value how do you even know if it even measures up to X? Confuzzling >_> what times zero would even get you to X in the first place?
I always wanted to email the almighty floating math head in the sky about this question... I was always told... "well technically 0 isn't a number its a place holder, and place holder's don't always work in math same goes for infinity" well i always thought... that when you divide into a number(eg. 4 into 20) You split the dividend (the number you are dividing into) into as many groups as the divisor asks. thus revealing that the quotient is the amount in each group. so dividing 20 by 1 would give you 20 each group so why wouldn't splitting 20 things into 0 groups give back 20? It sounds confusing but think about it this way... you have 20 people, you need to split them into 1 group... that's 20 a group right? now if they all belonged to no group (or 0 group) wouldn't it still be 20 people with out a group? thus the quotient being... 20
To me dividing by zero is an operation for which you cannot find the answer, so it is disallowed or incorrect. You can understand why if you think about how division and multiplication are related. 14 divided by 7 is 2 because 7 times 2 is 14. 12 divided by 0 is x, which would mean that 0 times x = 12 But no value would work for x because 0 times any number is 0. So division by zero doesn't work.
In algebra,our teachers taught us that division is the inverse of multiplication. If i divide six by zero, the end result won't have value. So basically you have no unknown quantity. There isnt a number multiplied by zero that equals six. The equation cannot be solved.
You could divide by zero but its not defined. For exampld lets say you have 4 toys and divide it by 4 to get 1. And if you do the inverse and multiply 4 you get 1. But if you divide 4 with 0 you get 0. When you try the inverse and multiply 4 with 0 you get 0 and not 4 proving that dividing by 0 is undefined.
When dividing, I visualize a number of people sharing a pizza with x peices. So when all the people leave and there is still a peice left, that peice is uneaten, everyone left, nobody, would get an unlimited number of slices. And since the calculator cannot express infinity, it registers as undefined.
Not bad guys. Keep in mind. Cutting and pasting something from the internet and taking it as your own thoughts is plaigarism. The person that did that will recieve a zero for this assignment. More importantly you are missing the point of the exercise, and that is to have a discussion about our thoughts. Whether those ideas are right or wrong.
because dividing any number by 0 would equal 0... ALL HAIL MIDDLE SCHOOL MATH or was it elementary.. idk idc i think thats right im not sure.
ReplyDeleteI agree with David, because when you divide any number by 0 you will get 0 as the answer, there really isn't any other explanation to that because 0 has no value.
ReplyDeleteI agree with david and yajaira, because wholetime a number divided by nothing would end up having no meaning. Just like how you can't multiply any number by zero without getting any number besides zero.
ReplyDeleteif you have 10 skittkes you can divide that by 2 and have two equal piles of 5 skittles. but if you have zero skittles you cant devide them into any group because there is nothing there to begin with and you probably arleady ate them all lol
ReplyDeleteNot a bad start, but none of these are sufficient arguments. You all start with decent arguments and then trail off. Go back to Landon's first sentence and start from there. 10/2 = 5. So division by 2 works. What would 10/0 = ? and why does that not work.
ReplyDeleteRemember 10/0 DOES NOT = 0, it is undefined. Two different things. Let's think more mathematically here.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110901174640AACySxs
ReplyDeletewell this is from yahoo answers, so I'm not sure how reliable all the information is but basically I think the bottom of the answer sums up Mr. Frank's question.... it's still a bit confusing but it sort of makes sense if you re-read it a couple times
Zero is undefinable when it comes to dividing because you can't group numbers with zero. For example, if i had a set of 10 cans and 5 groups. 2 cans in group 1 and 2. 3 cans in group 3 and 4 but group 5 had no cans, then it wouldnt make sense because you cant group anything with nothing so it might as well not be a group. that be all.
ReplyDeleteERIC N. FROM PD.7
ReplyDeleteWhen you do , for example, 8 divided by 0, you need to multiply the 0 with the 8 to get the 8 back. However, anything that multiplies with 0 is just 0.
0 is undefined because no other factor/number can be divided without the answer being impossible to answer or ending up to be 0 once again.
Well you can't divide by zero because, using skittles, you have ten, and divide themm by zero, you wouldn't be dividing them or anything at all since 0 isn't a number you can divide by so overall you would just have 10 skittles.
ReplyDeleteBut that different cuz, if 1 person wanted the skittles, all 10 skittles would go to that one person isn't of nothing happening to them,
I agree with Yajaira, Joey and David because any number that you divide or multiply by zero is just gonna give you zero so therefore zero is undefined.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Elmer. 16/4 is four, because you can put four of those 4's in to get back to 16. However, with zero, no matter what you multiply zero by, you will never get any number other than zero. So if you think of it in terms of multiplication, it makes sense. 15/3=3, because 3* The Answer (5) gets you back to 15. 16/0 doesn't equal 0, simply because 0* The answer, (0) does not get back to 16.
ReplyDeleteHope that makes sense, and correct me if I am wrong.
If you divide 6 by 3 you get 2, so to reverse your steps, 2 times 3 must equal 6.Now say you divide that 6 by 0 then no matter what answer you get, to reverse your steps you have to multiply that number by 0 and get the 6 back. But, no matter what number you try, you multiply the 0 and get 0 and can never get the 6 back. This is to say no number exists for 6 divided by 0 (or any number you choose to begin with though 0 is a bit trickier to explain) since no number times 0 equals 6.
ReplyDeleteSo basically what Maria had linked to was saying that anything divided with 0 as a numerator , 0/X, will get you 0. While anything with 0 as a denominator will equal or give you an answer of an undefined number. So for instance an equation like X/0= undefined. The number undefined has no verifiable value because it is undefined. It could be anything. So if you flip the equation to equal for X it would be (undefined • 0) = X. However that makes no sense because if it has no value how do you even know if it even measures up to X? Confuzzling >_> what times zero would even get you to X in the first place?
ReplyDeleteI always wanted to email the almighty floating math head in the sky about this question... I was always told... "well technically 0 isn't a number its a place holder, and place holder's don't always work in math same goes for infinity" well i always thought... that when you divide into a number(eg. 4 into 20) You split the dividend (the number you are dividing into) into as many groups as the divisor asks. thus revealing that the quotient is the amount in each group. so dividing 20 by 1 would give you 20 each group so why wouldn't splitting 20 things into 0 groups give back 20? It sounds confusing but think about it this way... you have 20 people, you need to split them into 1 group... that's 20 a group right? now if they all belonged to no group (or 0 group) wouldn't it still be 20 people with out a group? thus the quotient being... 20
ReplyDeleteTo me dividing by zero is an operation for which you cannot find the answer, so it is disallowed or incorrect. You can understand why if you think about how division and multiplication are related.
ReplyDelete14 divided by 7 is 2 because 7 times 2 is 14.
12 divided by 0 is x, which would mean that
0 times x = 12
But no value would work for x because 0 times any number is 0. So division by zero doesn't work.
In algebra,our teachers taught us that division is the inverse of multiplication. If i divide six by zero, the end result won't have value. So basically you have no unknown quantity. There isnt a number multiplied by zero that equals six. The equation cannot be solved.
ReplyDeleteYou could divide by zero but its not defined. For exampld lets say you have 4 toys and divide it by 4 to get 1. And if you do the inverse and multiply 4 you get 1. But if you divide 4 with 0 you get 0. When you try the inverse and multiply 4 with 0 you get 0 and not 4 proving that dividing by 0 is undefined.
ReplyDeleteWhat i meant to say was when you do the inverse and multiply 1 by 4 you get 4. Sorry about spelling hahaha.
ReplyDeleteWhen dividing, I visualize a number of people sharing a pizza with x peices. So when all the people leave and there is still a peice left,
ReplyDeletethat peice is uneaten, everyone left, nobody, would get an unlimited number of slices. And since the calculator cannot express infinity, it registers as undefined.
Not bad guys. Keep in mind. Cutting and pasting something from the internet and taking it as your own thoughts is plaigarism. The person that did that will recieve a zero for this assignment. More importantly you are missing the point of the exercise, and that is to have a discussion about our thoughts. Whether those ideas are right or wrong.
ReplyDeleteI agrre with David because dividing anything by zero will give you zero thus making dividing by zero undefined.
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